Topic Harvesting: Sickles and swords
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In Response to Clonkonaut
I will again try to talk you out of this. Here are several reasons for not having the sword doing this:
- counterintuitive: No one would expect the sword to do this. People would keep asking why the clonk don't use sickles which makes much more sense.
- non-realistic: I don't think anyone of us ever tried to cut wheat. But as far as I know your proposal is not possible in a decent way in real-life. Scythes and sickles are designed to actually cut the stalks without bending or breaking them. A heavy sword slashing at it would result in either no cut at all or a mess of broken stalks.
- imbalanced: A sword is a weapon. Let's keep it that way, seriously. There is no need to invent new awkward uses for the sword. Weapons are produced in the armory. Thus you would need to construct a whole new building just to get the sword.
- fiddly: The axe is very good example that mixing weapons and other uses is very bad. I will see to remove the attack from the axe at all. I've seen many people now accidently attacking other clonks when they actually wanted to cut down something.
- getting the wrong idea: mixing functionalities is, again, a bad idea. The berrybush is a very good example of irritating game behaviour. By showing a reaction to the doings of the player, you will confuse him. I have seen several people now, hacking at berrybushes with the axe because they thought this is the proper way only because the thing shows a reaction to hacking. You will hand out mixed signals to the player: sword -> does damage + sword -> harvest stuff. This will lead to players trying to slash at random things which at some point may result in a very bad reaction (like the simple disappearing of berrybushes)
I can't understand why you insist on this :I If the only real argument is really "the player will need a new tool" then consider this:
We aim for peaceful settlement scenarios. If the player wants to harvest something he will need a new tool regardless of which way (sword, sickle) we introduce. The sword of course will end up in the need of a new building but I don't want to stress on this. I want to stress on the fact that it doesn't make any difference because both things are in this case single-purposed tools!
- counterintuitive: No one would expect the sword to do this. People would keep asking why the clonk don't use sickles which makes much more sense.
- non-realistic: I don't think anyone of us ever tried to cut wheat. But as far as I know your proposal is not possible in a decent way in real-life. Scythes and sickles are designed to actually cut the stalks without bending or breaking them. A heavy sword slashing at it would result in either no cut at all or a mess of broken stalks.
- imbalanced: A sword is a weapon. Let's keep it that way, seriously. There is no need to invent new awkward uses for the sword. Weapons are produced in the armory. Thus you would need to construct a whole new building just to get the sword.
- fiddly: The axe is very good example that mixing weapons and other uses is very bad. I will see to remove the attack from the axe at all. I've seen many people now accidently attacking other clonks when they actually wanted to cut down something.
- getting the wrong idea: mixing functionalities is, again, a bad idea. The berrybush is a very good example of irritating game behaviour. By showing a reaction to the doings of the player, you will confuse him. I have seen several people now, hacking at berrybushes with the axe because they thought this is the proper way only because the thing shows a reaction to hacking. You will hand out mixed signals to the player: sword -> does damage + sword -> harvest stuff. This will lead to players trying to slash at random things which at some point may result in a very bad reaction (like the simple disappearing of berrybushes)
I can't understand why you insist on this :I If the only real argument is really "the player will need a new tool" then consider this:
We aim for peaceful settlement scenarios. If the player wants to harvest something he will need a new tool regardless of which way (sword, sickle) we introduce. The sword of course will end up in the need of a new building but I don't want to stress on this. I want to stress on the fact that it doesn't make any difference because both things are in this case single-purposed tools!
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