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If you wonder why it took so long: I just didn't find out where the Amethysts were. I thought they are on the ground like the rubys as well, but I was wrong.
It's also possible to just build some air bubbles (with wall kits and the pump) and dive the rest :)
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We got a super fancy acid basin though!
The scenario starts out really easy: dig a bit, blast a bit of granite, find the acid. Figuring out how to build pumps and basins to get the acid through isn't hard either.
At some point when trying to get energy into the mine you hit the "no build"-zone near the crystals. There is very little feedback about why you can't build there, it somewhat feels like a bug.
The scenario would benefit a lot from a guide NPC like in some of the other missions. Maybe one near the crystal barrier explaining why you can't build there and another one near the acid lake giving a tip about energy generation with the pump.
These things are obviously written in the description, but few people read that thoroughly enough on the first try.
We also thought that the landscape is a bit boring. Flints are mainly below the base. In the mine, there is only a lot of stone and lava with very large spots of coal, ore and gold in-between.
-it would be great to build chests to store some items in the mine, in the lack of it we decided to gather things on certain spots.
-the landscape is boring: Some ideas: Mushrooms, Cave mushroom trees, mix the biiig material basens with some smaller ones. There are close to no objects scattered in the earth.
-I hated to go long miles to gather flint, because there were no small flint segments anywhere.
-K-Pone who has dyschromatopsia (Rot-Grün Schwäche) said it was nearly impossible to distinguishing the source and drain pipes from the pumps.
-To make it more newbie friendly: There is no easy gold accessable, it only comes after lava and granite - so newbies cannot buy a second Clonk before they die I guess.
>-K-Pone who has dyschromatopsia (Rot-Grün Schwäche) said it was nearly impossible to distinguishing the source and drain pipes from the pumps.
Small arrows on the pipe might be more self-explaining than colors but they depend on the zoom factor and it's an Engine thing...
Probably a much simpler water-powered scenario would be interesting for newbies. If anyone remembers "Habachtal" from the ClonkCenter (webpage is down unfortunately): A water source on a mountain slope generates a stream which flows downhill.
In a scenario like this with windmills disabled, pumps would be the sole power source but would work just fine. Could even be a tutorial mission.
(Imagine I didn't click "stop recording" too early)
>Anyways, that would be a lot more work and would also mean even more overhead for the landscape shader which we probably do not want for such a little-used feature.
You're probably right. If someone needs another color, he can still introduce a custom new material and exchange the material "gold" with e.g. "blackgold" with some material replacement function.
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Will it be possible to create objects in front of tunnel material but behind solid material anytime soon?
>Will it be possible to create objects in front of tunnel material but behind solid material anytime soon?
What do you want this for? This was a feature wish of the 1. milestone as well but did not get the needed developer support. I think ck and Mortimer both at least thought about it a little bit ;)
(I remember wanting this feature in CR too but I forgot why)
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>is it possible to create a drop. Sound
Rain sounds were on the sound request list. I edited rain recordings and put them to the resource repository around half a year ago. This file is supposed to increase and decrease in volume depending on the amount of rain. Still a scripter has to implement it.
Your suggestion is more elaborated. We indeed did a couple of single water drop sounds (also need to be implemented), but they were intended more for drips and drops (especially in caves). I'm not sure whether we should try to simulate the sound of rain via thousands of rain drop sounds, sounds like a lot of effort. Would be interesting to hear how it would sound though, probably different from rain but still very pleasing.
>rain via thousands of rain drop sounds, sounds like a lot of effort
It did not exactly mean just add up drop sounds. More like a transition between single drop sounds and complete rainfall/waterfall samples by the amount of raindrops/sec near the player. For sure just using one sound for each drop would work similar, but I think that single drop sounds should sound sharp and clean/exposed, while the detail should get lost on an increased amount of drops and on the other hand create an imaginary volumn (doesn't know wether that sounds correct, but maybe you get my point). So one should probably transition between sound samples or just add a smooth/washy filter on a higher amount of drop sounds.
I also once felt like Open Clonk would be the perfect game to build a very rich audio environment with tons of sounds. Also this could set it apart from other titles since this has been neglected by a lot of other games.
The thing is - I already spent like a hell of a lot of time on that - and most of the sounds that are finished are not even used. So why make even more? The todolist would just get longer, we would not necessarily get more sounds anytime soon. I cannot even blame the developers, since obviously there are more important matters than sound. Wish we just had more programmers :/
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